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I'm going to call on Mr. and Mrs. Bryant Reeve to share some of their experiences in the

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UFO research. They've been at this thing for a number of years and I know they did have

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enough information to write a book. As a matter of fact, I understand they have. And would

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you just come up here and we'll go on to whenever you were ready.

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I never get the last word.

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I understand you just returned from Mexico recently. Is that correct?

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No, it's not quite correct. We've been back in the States about a year and a half since

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Mexico.

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I heard something about the discovery of pyramid there greater than they have discovered so

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far. Did you elaborate on that or any of the excavations in Mexico up to this time?

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As far as I know, there hasn't been any newly discovered pyramid in Michigan. Are you in

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Mexico? Are you aware of any of that?

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Dr. Williamson.

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Dr. Williamson, of course, is down in Lima, Peru, doing some excavating work down there trying to

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uncover some of the lost records, which he says, according to one of the letters I received

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from him, will tie in very much with the saucer phenomenon.

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Good. Tell us about how did you come in?

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Oh, let's say how was your interest developed in the flying saucers?

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I understand you're quite active in the old, the tri-flying saucer from by Henry Mayday.

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Well, I should be very happy to tell you how we began our interest in flying saucers.

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I think, however, a number of the Detroit people know.

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Mr. Adamski is a villain.

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He's the one that really got us started.

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But Henry Mayday of Detroit, which I think most of you know, came over to our house one

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night with George Adamski's book.

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He said, look at this.

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Here's a man that's talked to a man from outer space.

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Well, I was a little bit excited.

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I thought, well, that's kind of thrilling.

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And Brian, my husband, was quite disgusted.

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He just, we're just impossible, that's all.

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And we talked about the book with Henry Mayday and Mrs. Laura Markser and another chap who

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has since strapped away from the saucer field.

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We decided that one way to find out whether Mr. Adamski was telling the truth and have a

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nice pipe dream was to see if we could bring him to Detroit.

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So we did very much as you have done this time.

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We got a few sponsors and brought him to Detroit.

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We worked on it, I think about a month, day and night, Laura can attest to that very well.

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We would meet every night and we knew nothing about promoting, but it's sort of the case

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where fools rush where angels fear to tread.

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And we went through the telephone book and contacted different clubs.

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And of course, at that time in 54, you must remember there was no saucer that we knew of.

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No saucer interest in Detroit.

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Fortunately, Mr. Adamski was the author of one of the best sellers in books.

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So that gave us some courage.

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We brought him into Detroit with the idea of only presenting it to a very small group.

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And even at that, we wondered where we would get five or six hundred people that would actually

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believe such a thing.

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But we did.

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We rented the Detroit Institute of Art, the small hall, which sat 400 people each and each

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lecture was sold out.

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I think you perhaps all know the famous broadcast Mr. Adamski gave.

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Mrs. Markser contacted all the radio and television stations and nobody would have any part of it.

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But finally, through her personal efforts, she contacted Russ Mulholland and he out of

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friendship to Mrs. Markser agreed to take Mr. Adamski for five minutes.

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And Laura took him down there and they put him on the air for five minutes.

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The five minutes came and went.

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He was on the air one hour and a half.

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So with that publicity and the publicity from a press conference, our phones began to ring

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day and night.

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Mrs. Markser's phone was she was called all the time and I was and we were accused of withholding

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information from the public because we hadn't had an out and out open meeting for Mr.

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Adamski. So I am not being in my right mind with Henry May Day and a few others.

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Not my husband, of course.

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He didn't want any part of the nonsense.

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Went down to the Masonic Temple and rented it for $1,200 for one night.

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I signed my husband's name and there was almost a divorce in the Reef family.

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That was Karen, just a little bit too far.

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He took the attitude that, well, I was having fun.

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Go ahead, but don't bother him about it.

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Of course, as you know, he's changed quite a deal from them.

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But after we spent a good deal of time with Mr.

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Adamski and we realized his sincerity and frankly, I just believed that right from the

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beginning, as sort of a woman's intuition, Mr.

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Reef wasn't quite sure.

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We were selling something to the public that we weren't quite sure about ourselves.

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But we were, we can very much interested then.

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And I felt that if it were true, it was the biggest thing in the world since Christ.

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And if this phenomena was true, I wanted to know all about it.

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So we left Detroit and started out on what was going to be a vacation and picking up

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saucer information as we went around the country.

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And during the three years, we've traveled 30,000 miles and we have met everyone that

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has written a book in which they have claimed the saucer contact.

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We also spent six months in Mexico where we helped uncover a contact there, which while

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we were there, Mr.

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Adamski came down and it's the one contact that I know of that Mr.

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Adamski felt was authentic.

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He's been asked to comment on a lot of other people.

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And I, as to my knowledge, I don't believe that he has actually said yes, that

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must it was authentic.

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But the Mexican contact, the man told Mr.

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Adamski a few things at this in conversation that Mr.

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Adamski knew that he wouldn't know those things unless he had actually had a contact.

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And we're still going.

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We're going to leave here rather leave Cleveland in September.

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Our latest investigation has been that of Howard Manger.

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We think he has had the most interesting experiences.

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And those of you that know him, of course, say that know that he claims to have

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witnesses and he claims to be in very close contact with the space people.

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I myself was with Howard last weekend.

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And from my own experiences that I have had with Howard, I would stake my life

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story being true.

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And we hope to investigate the witnesses there and see some of the pictures he's

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taken and we go on to Washington and meet our friend, Mr.

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Keyhole again and see what's going on there.

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And then down to Mexico and enjoy really well, we feel Mexico is our second home.

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And the fact that Mr.

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Dan is going to be there a great deal at the time is going to add deeply to our pleasure.

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Well, that's very interesting.

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Believe me, I know you've done a tremendous job in this flying

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saucer pilgrimages, you call it.

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I think that's a very good title for it.

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Yes.

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There's just one point I'd like to end.

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Mr.

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Even I started this investigation or research with the idea of finding out

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for ourselves whether this thing was true or false.

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We had no idea of going out to convince the world that yes, this is so or this

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isn't so our book is a factual book.

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That is, we've written it as if we were reporters going from place to place.

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This is what we found.

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You judge for yourself at the last part of the book.

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We give you our conclusions, but there definitely are conclusions and whether

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you accept them or not is is just up to you.

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But it was with no intent of building a saucer club or trying to promote

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saucers.

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We wanted to find out for ourselves.

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That's very interesting.

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Well, thank you.

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Brian, how about you?

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You must have some very interesting impressions or experiences that you would

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like to talk about.

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I know you've traveled extensively and collecting this material.

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In particular, I wanted to learn more about this book, the saucer pilgrimages.

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So applying the saucer to flying saucer pilgrimages that available on the book

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stores or you have to order it.

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Our good friend Ray Palmer is publishing this book and it should be out sometime

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within the next 60 days.

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In the meantime, in order to help Ray, who is certainly a new age soul, get his

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remarkable flying saucer magazine going.

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He asked us if he could please serialize some of our pilgrimage.

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And so for a few numbers, he is putting in certain chapters of our book in his

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magazine.

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Maybe some of you have seen the first copy, which came out a few weeks ago.

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The second one is due by the way, this magazine is called Flying Saucers from

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other worlds.

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I believe that's there.

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And the second edition will be out very shortly.

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You people might be interested in that because it contains our detailed account of

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our experiences in Mexico, including some really fantastic adventures that we have

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when Mr. Haddowski came to visit us.

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I hope you get many a good laugh out of that because some of the experiences were

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really quite out of this world.

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May I say this, that we did not come to Detroit expecting to be on any program at

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all.

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This is very unexpected.

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But I would like to express Helen and my gratitude for being back at our hometown

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where we took off from on this fantastic adventure, which is now going into its fourth

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year.

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And also to express our admiration and joy at seeing the number of people in

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Detroit and in Michigan who are sincerely interested in this tremendous

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unfoldment of inhabited outer space.

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And it is no less than that.

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Helen mentioned that I had changed my mind when I think of four years ago.

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Well, I was a very state engineer in a very state company and just thought that anything

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connected with this must be.

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Well, let's put it mildly fanciful.

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And now as we went along our journey, I have just I've been through the ringer.

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That's about the only way that I can express it.

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It seems that about all the things that I thought I knew so solidly had to be modified, not only

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once, but repeatedly.

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And, you know, it reminds me a little bit about a good friend of mine who's sitting in the

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audience here.

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He said, well, Brian, he said, the fact is that you don't have to be crazy.

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To investigate flying saucers, but it surely does help.

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Well, Helen and I, and I know all of you who are pioneers, you get accused of going off

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a deep end of sanity in all land.

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I think the prize thing we were caught on our trip was psycho ceramics.

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That's just new age for new age for crankpots.

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Well, I want to say it's wonderful to be here.

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And may I say this in your investigation of this great thing?

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In the first thing place, this is a worthwhile investigation.

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A person has to be pretty much of a zombie not to get a thrill out of a growing realization

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that this world of ours is ending its cosmic isolationism.

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Just think of it.

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And we are beginning to see the grandeur and the glory of a contact with our brothers and

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sisters in outer space.

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That's a pretty thrilling thing, but that's what we're all investigating.

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And may I say this from humbly, from my own experience?

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You know, it was a time not too many years ago when I thought I knew a lot and I thought

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I could tell other people and they don't know very much.

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But the more I see of this, the more I realize that the infinitude of outer space is a diamond

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with so many facets that please, if you have one facet, credit the other person with his

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facet, because it takes all of us, sons of God and daughters of God, to really express

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this greatness of outer space.

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So if you can't haven't quite reached the point of view of your neighbor or another

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group, Saucer Group, don't condemn them, please.

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Just bide your time and give them their think, just as they should give you your

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think.

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And I'm sure that before your investigation is over that a lot of these things would seem

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so antagonistic with each other, will in time be completely reconciled.

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So it seemed to me there's a tremendous need of the new age souls who are entering these

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Saucer Clubs and groups to work together in love.

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After all, what is the message that is coming from the spaceships and the space people?

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It's such an old, old message that it hardly satisfies us.

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It's the message purely of brotherly love and tolerance.

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And if we get that, wouldn't it be terrible if all the new age souls couldn't work together?

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Then is we've got enough discord among the old age souls.

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So let us all who are in this research work together.

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And even if our views seem diverse at present, I'm absolutely sure that down the road these

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will be reconciled in cosmic truth.

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Very glad to be here and thank you very much.

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Thank you, Mr.

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Bryant.